Ignoranceisbliss
John, I so love your stories but the vast majority of them ping my BS meter. I don't know why someone would make up crazy stories like this but I have a hard time believing them. If this is real. WOW!!! If it's fake, you should begin writing novels because you have one hell of an imagination.
John Aquila
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No Kingdom Halls would definitely work!
by John Aquila inlast night we were invited to a get-together with quite a few heavies attendingelders and regular pioneers.
there was beer and later some music.
everyone got relaxed and let down their guard and starting talking all kinds of non-theocratic stuff that you only discuss after a few beers.
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John Aquila
Ig. I understand the skepticism, no problem, it doesn't bother me. When I finally woke up I never believed anyone or anything. But eventually I got over that. People can believe or not believe. It's not going to hurt them if they don't believe, and it's not going to hurt me either. I just relate the stories as they happen to me.I'm sure others have experience the same thing.As far as writing novels, I don't believe my experience of a small group of jws who voice their opinions of what they wish would change in the WT is that great of an imagination. In fact,I don't think any of my experiences are that great. It's just normal human experience when you still have plenty of contact with JWs, and nothing to shout about. -
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No Kingdom Halls would definitely work!
by John Aquila inlast night we were invited to a get-together with quite a few heavies attendingelders and regular pioneers.
there was beer and later some music.
everyone got relaxed and let down their guard and starting talking all kinds of non-theocratic stuff that you only discuss after a few beers.
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John Aquila
nicolaou
Did this really happen?Yes N.
Of course it's just a small group of Jws, and not representative of the entire jw world.
But I would venture to say that most jws deep down inside feel the same way but won't admit it publicly unless they are in a non-threatening environment and relaxed. With the exception of older ones who invested all their lives in the organization. (sunk cost fallacy)
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No Kingdom Halls would definitely work!
by John Aquila inlast night we were invited to a get-together with quite a few heavies attendingelders and regular pioneers.
there was beer and later some music.
everyone got relaxed and let down their guard and starting talking all kinds of non-theocratic stuff that you only discuss after a few beers.
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John Aquila
Giordano
My reaction is.....WOW. In that setting no one raised an objection? No one defended the meetings?
Well the old guy and his wife did try to object, (Probably in their 70s) but the young teenage kids shut them up pretty quickly.
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No Kingdom Halls would definitely work!
by John Aquila inlast night we were invited to a get-together with quite a few heavies attendingelders and regular pioneers.
there was beer and later some music.
everyone got relaxed and let down their guard and starting talking all kinds of non-theocratic stuff that you only discuss after a few beers.
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John Aquila
Last night we were invited to a get-together with quite a few heavies attending—elders and regular pioneers. There was beer and later some music. Everyone got relaxed and let down their guard and starting talking all kinds of non-theocratic stuff that you only discuss after a few beers. Movies like Jurassic park, iron man, predator vs alien, all those movies with violence------ but it’s okay.
When I saw everyone in a merry mood, I asked the question;
“Hey, what would you guys think if the Society decided to go all tech and get rid of all the Kingdom Halls and everyone just listened to all the meetings and conventions on video, internet or TV?”
It got real quite!!!!-------
I thought I was in trouble---------------
then---------
Everyone started----------------------------“Hell ya”
They started voicing their thoughts on how great it would be not to have to go to all the meetings, no traveling far for conventions.
Then they went beyond what I had asked.
And it brought a smile to my face.
They continued with the idea that perhaps in the future, field service would involve internet, and email witnessing and no more door to door. You should of seen the evil grins.
But why stop there. One elder blurts out; “No judicial committees, no disfellowshipping”
Then one sister blurts out, “Every type of conduct would be between Jehovah and the individual.
One brother blurts out; “No more elders, no more elders meetings, no CO hectic week”
One young kid jumps in and says; “No Bethel service and No regular pioneering”
One old sister and her old husband jumps in with a serious frown on his face and asks the question; “Yea but how would we baptized new ones?”
A bunch of teenagers shout; “ Home baptism.”
And it just went on and on…………They kept up the conversation for about an hour.
And to my surprise they worked out the details better than we would have here on this site.
Would it work?
Well I did some research and found out that there are several fundamental religious evangelists who have been very successful at making money via social network, internet, and TV. Even non-Christian extremist are successful in recruiting for their cause.
So think about the idea of a paradise earth with no death, getting young again, a resurrection, no war, sickness, animals at peace, and all you have to do is watch videos and read a few magazines and Donate. That’s it!
Is it possible the Watchtower is headed that way? With all the Bethel layoffs, less printing, magazines even being cancelled in some countries, very few Kingdom Halls being constructed.
And they wouldn’t have to worry anymore about any more child sexual abuse lawsuits.
I think we got a winner!
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Raining before the Flood?
by GrownMidget ini remember at my teen years when i was studying with a brother that he said to me that there was no rain before the flood.
instead there was this mist that you have.
never before or after this have i heard something like this.
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Humans are not wired to want the truth
by rebel8 inthat's what i suspect.. perhaps some of us retrained our brains to not surrender to a natural urge to believe the simplest, most drama-laden spins on facts.. examples (at least i think this is the truth!):.
the clock.
the son of muslim activists makes a device that, on purpose, looks like a bomb.
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John Aquila
But different people have slightly different wiring or maybe none at all
VI. You just said something else that I didn't want to admit. It makes perfect sense.
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Freedom in admitting the truth...
by _Morpheus infor those that lurk or havnt decided to post yet.... living a lie is difficult.
nobody would likely disagree with that... many of us lived or are living the wt lie for the sake of friends or family.
it can eat at us and put us in situations where we frame half truths, try to find tactful way to avoid telling people what we really think.. there is great freedom in being able to admit truths.
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John Aquila
_Morpheus
Living a lie is difficult.
M. those words are going to be my yearly text. I'm going to hang them on the wall. When I get jw company, it will be a good starting point for conversation!
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Humans are not wired to want the truth
by rebel8 inthat's what i suspect.. perhaps some of us retrained our brains to not surrender to a natural urge to believe the simplest, most drama-laden spins on facts.. examples (at least i think this is the truth!):.
the clock.
the son of muslim activists makes a device that, on purpose, looks like a bomb.
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John Aquila
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What I would like to see soon!
by John Aquila ini would like to see one or better two members of the governing body get disfellowshipped and they both go off to write books like ray franz exposing the cult to all the sexual scandals, the hidden agendas with the stock market investments, the lawsuits, the laying of long time bethel workers, hidden sins by the higher ups and all the other nasty skeletons in the watchtower closet..
what would be different today compared to rays time is that we now live in a social media world..
they would be invited to talk in the oprah winfrey show, ellen degeneres show, the view, dateline.
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John Aquila
Any GB member who defects can live in my basement, rent free. That is a promise.
GB members, just PM me! Seriously! You can e-mail me here, I know you monitor this site.
Ok DATA-DOG---I guess I’m ready, I’ll send you a PM!
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Is the Borg winding down printing altogether?
by slimboyfat inthe thread about magazines stopping distribution in india reminded me of a recent conversation.
a local brother said he asked for a copy of the new organisation book for publishers.
the elder told the brother to print it out if he wanted a physical copy.
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John Aquila
That would explain the Bethel layoffs. No printing--no Bethelites.